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Hey lgbt people: lately I’ve been seeing a lot of asks that ask for no lgbt content out of “personal preference.” As a queer person, I’m not sure I’m comfortable with people feeling free to engage in homophobic behavior out of “preference.” Does anyone have opinions about whether Likewise should require people to engage in accepting behavior or is this just fee speech?

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grace And if it’s free speech can I be as mean to homophobes as I want to be? I think they deserve to be shamed for engaging publicly in homophobic behavior

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Sarah Brown I wish blocking worked better because I don't want to see those people

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grace would love for blocking and deleting comments to be more effective!!

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Marsh yeah, it reminds me quite a bit of poland's 'lgbt-free zones', the 'don't say gay' laws in florida, the seizure of bodily autonomy from people with uteruses and trans people, especially teens, in general. this sh!t isnt taking place in a vacuum. likewise, like most online communities with lax moderation, is a mirror of the macrosocial world at the moment, and its not pretty. i'm sure there'll be some white cis straight wiseguy in these comments who WILL whine about free speech being taken away boohoo, but i'm pretty sure white racists whined the same thing about having to take down their 'no coloreds' signs back in the 50s, just as white people STILL whine about how they get censured for saying the N word. to people with those free speech concerns: stop being so purposefully obtuse about aggressions and microaggressions against the community.

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Marsh i am DEFINITELY not comfortable with those 'no lgbt' asks being allowed to stay up. it's so stupidly easy to spot the homophobes making them, and then watch them squirm because they don't like to own up to their bigotry or think differently from their homophobic parents. you can also see who enables homophobes by who leaves likes on their comments! y'all aren't even slightly subtle. we have been trying to tell you to stop for nearly a year now. don't play innocent. you know who you are. to the straight people i know who will be looking at my words: yeah, you CAN have preferences. but preferences also mean you'd be willing to try something else, too. if you really cannot relate to gay people (which bewilders me, i have to relate to straight and cis people ALL THE TIME, you will find commonalities with characters beyond who they like to tonsil hockey with if you'd actually try), just say 'i'd like a straight fantasy romance please', or even 'i dont like romance, can i have a romance-free book?' boom. not homophobic wording. 👍 good first step of not being a homophobe--not doing or saying homophobic things in public where queer people and minors have to see you acting like an ass.

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Dorian It’s absolutely homophobic and super off-putting for me as a queer. What I don’t get is why they can’t just… not read the gay books that are recommended to them. like if you google the book someone recommends to you, and there are gay ppl in it, no one is forcing you to read it? idk it’s wild to me that the weird homophobes on this app feel the desperate need to inform us all that they aren’t comfortable with The Gays

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grace Fr like it’s so embarrassing to be homophobic in 2023

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rungemaille Because they’re too lazy to do their own checking and scared we’ll give them gay cooties?

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Genevieve (she/her) 🏳️‍🌈📚 Exactly! You can very easily find out if a book is LGBTQ. Why do you need to blast your desire to not read it on an online platform?!

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rungemaille It’s offensive, and they have repeatedly been called out over it. People have complained to Likewise, reported asks and accounts, engaged in conversation with said posters to try and explain why what they were doing was harmful, other discussion posts like this one were made. Nothing happens. Some of the posters, after conversation, will say things like “I’ll try to follow your recommendations on how to word things differently/etc”. Then they’re back at it after a week or two. At this point I’m kinda burned out engaging with them on the topic, and @Likewise clearly do not seem interested in properly supporting their queer members.

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Genevieve (she/her) 🏳️‍🌈📚 I also find it offensive and homophobic, in general, but also especially when it’s paired with things like ‘nothing inappropriate’ or ‘appropriate for kids/teens,’ etc. It’s like they’re implying queerness is something gross or bad, or inherently too explicit to even broach in a book for younger audiences. It’s sick.

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Ado It’s homophobic and I frankly consider it hate speech. It upsets me because there are kids on this app and I don’t want some closeted queer kid to have to see that stuff. I try to report it and I sometimes call them out, but they keep posting. Some of their responses are even more blatantly homophobic after they’re called out

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Nadine . I've thought about this for a while. My knee jerk reaction was, "there should be preferences in settings that you can just click a button". Cos I dont want religious content and I'm not too into horror. Then I was like...hang on, I'm a part of this world too, I'm normal and a person, so is everyone else. I dont outline that I dont want religious stuff, I just skip over those recs. Also I watch some other things and sometimes its uncomfortable and I dont go back and sometimes it expands my tastes and knowledge. They wouldnt do it to any other marginalized people so I dont think they should get to do it to us. We're in the stages of an uncomfortable growth as a society where things that were hidden and made dangerous are becoming safe and expressable. The more people are exposed to the way the world is now the more comfortable and less scared they can be. Violence and hate is a reaction to fear and fear comes from a lack of understanding and education. Sorry for the essay. No, they should not be allowed to "preference" a people.

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Sarah Brown Unfortunately re: they wouldn't do this to other types of marginalized people I have been seeing a lot of “male protagonist only” types on here lately too.

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grace Honestly would love a setting to turn off certain genres tho like if someone can say No Gays I should get to say no Colleen Hoover

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Mitch M I’d feel okay if they asked for a man and woman relationship so they can relate to it, but I don’t like people asking for no lgbt at all that’s just…

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Marsh agreed!! its ok to ask for straight relationships! just dont be weird about it ✌️😎🌌

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Ghost 👻 I always look at these things as “people have their reasons.” It sounds hurtful from an outside perspective. And a lot of the times it is hurtful. But I’m the kind of person who gives everyone the benefit of the doubt, so I just ignore it and move on. (That or I’d recommend some show with a HUGE queer fanbase or fannon pairing lol)

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Marsh See, I did that at first, too. I shrugged and moved on. And then the number of people doing it multiplied. The number of transphobes openly being transphobic on the app exploded. At this point I confront those attitudes directly because I’m tired of people doing nothing about it. I’ve spoken to dozens of people about their reasons behind saying ‘no lgbtq’. And next to none of them have ever told me:

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Whitney Howard What a novel idea! Wish more people were like you!

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