Discussion

Jenny Brown Make a deadpool/spiderman/venom movie and then go from there

Brandon Reed Start with Spider-Man and do others as spinoffs. The first movie had too much CGI liquid splashing as fights. Don't do that. Write better dialogue. Cast better, lol. Tom Hardy and Woody Harrelson were cast perfectly. Michelle Williams was a good choice, too. A lot of the other casting has been bad, though. Don't give blockbuster budgets to first-time directors. Madame Web and Venom: The Last Dance both had directorial debuts, and both were criticized for their direction.

Brandon Reed I've actually put a lot of thought into how I would handle Venom in a new movie continuity. Venom was initially introduced as a character mostly openly menacing Spider-Man. I've always thought it would be interesting if a movie reboot (or even an alternate comic book universe) instead started Venom off by first having the symbiote and disgraced Eddie Brock storyline. If it's a movie, then make that part of the second movie. Don't introduce Venom and the symbiote in the same movie. It crunches too much together. Instead, have Venom be the villain of the third movie, but for the first act, he's FRAMING Spider-Man, leaving webbing at lethal vigilante acts, forging his handwriting on notes from "Your deadly neighborhood Spider-Man," etc. There was a story in the comics where Spider-Man was framed for murder, so Peter Parker developed several different superhero personas to prove his innocence without interference. He has one with super strength, one with super agility, and one with advanced technology and scientific knowledge. There might've been more, idr. But this keeps anyone from putting together that this new guy's Spider-Man. Three might be too many for a single movie, but they could reintroduce the idea with one or two. They already did it humorously with Night Monkey. So, Peter starts investigating. And Venom starts actively saving people before killing their assailants. Survivors say they were saved by Spider-Man in his black suit. Peter hears this on the TV in the background as he's setting up a test on what he hopes isn't a piece of the symbiote. He exposes it to loud sound, and it reacts. Peter tracks down the symbiote's location and confronts Venom as Spider-Man with a sonics device so the public will see that there were two people acting as Spider-Man. He's initially a normal man's size, but the symbiote bulks up and the eyes take the distinctive Venom shape while Venom explains that the host body's hatred of Parker has made "them/us" strong. He then peels back the face to show Eddie. Peter loses the fight to a surprise attack from a symbiote tendril (something Peter never used with the symbiote), and Venom says he's just gotten started while destroying the device. He leaves Parker alive. No one saw Spider-Man and Venom fighting, so he has to go incognito again. Now, Venom is leaving clues that he ("Spider-Man") is the new superhero. Peter has to deflect suspicion AND figure out where Venom has moved to. Then, he starts getting calls from his now-ex girlfriend (after all the shenanigans with the symbiote from the last movie) and from Aunt May about how they think someone's following them. They're hearing noises at night. Aunt May thinks there's someone in the house. She's already called 911, but she's scared. Peter goes in his old costume, but there's no trace any of the times. Meanwhile, Venom is now saving people who aren't being attacked. A report comes in of the black suited Spider-Man saving a dangling window washer, maybe. All this time, Peter's rebuilding the sonics machine. Finally, Peter in the new costume happens to find and to interrupt Venom and stop him from killing someone. Venom knocks him to the ground and webs him up. He tells him to find him and the ex at a specific warehouse when he gets free. He gets free. They fight. Building crumbles, causing some kind of disaster. They work together to save the people after Eddie and the symbiote agree to it. Things are looking good until some rubble falls on Venom. Spider-Man struggles, but finishes saving the people and checks for Venom under the rubble. He's gone. Wrap up Pete's personal story. He and his girlfriend reconcile. Enough people saw the two spidermen to clear Spider-Man. Mid credits scene shows Eddie dressed in all black buying a train ticket to leave town. The ticket agent addresses him as Mr. Michelinie. The symbiote asks if he couldn't get any more creative than using his mom's maiden name. "VENOM WILL RETURN."